| Time | Name | Global Chat | Blue Chat | Red Chat |
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| 09:58:39 | znm | luckily i own the server ;) | | |
| 09:58:42 | azzy | neat | | |
| 09:58:46 | znm | you can bind impulse 101 to a key | | |
| 09:58:51 | znm | and get unlimited grenades if you want | | |
| 09:59:10 | znm | spec me real quick ill s how you everytyhing azzy | | |
| 09:59:23 | znm | second jpad is here if you have 2 scourts | | |
| 09:59:40 | znm | you can go water with the jpad like this, its kinda cool | | |
| 09:59:45 | znm | sec | | |
| 09:59:53 | znm | also | | |
| 09:59:55 | znm | dont jump here | | |
| 09:59:57 | znm | bad habit | | |
| 10:00:00 | azzy | fall damage | | |
| 10:00:01 | znm | you will get fall damage | | |
| 10:00:03 | znm | yup | | |
| 10:00:04 | azzy | ye | | |
| 10:00:08 | znm | 60% players do it still | | |
| 10:00:11 | znm | you woul dbe surprised rofl | | |
| 10:00:14 | azzy | lol | | |
| 10:00:28 | znm | when jpad is here you can kinda ramp slide water and go water with it is the other way to go | | |
| 10:01:02 | azzy | let me try | | |
| 10:01:02 | znm | thats pretty much ur 2 ways tehre | | |
| 10:01:09 | znm | go button or water | | |
| 10:01:13 | znm | welcome 2 phantom | | |
| 10:01:20 | azzy | uhh im lost already | | |
| 10:01:21 | azzy | xd | | |
| 10:01:22 | znm | lol | | |
| 10:01:25 | znm | there you go | | |
| 10:01:28 | znm | down that ramp to main everytime | | |
| 10:01:36 | azzy | oh my god | | |
| 10:01:50 | azzy | okay too early | | |
| 10:01:50 | znm | you can prime way later | | |
| 10:01:54 | znm | im just a god priming early | | |
| 10:02:29 | znm | | | |
| 10:02:35 | azzy | i get too much height here | | |
| 10:02:38 | znm | | | |
| 10:02:57 | znm | just go button way main too | | |
| 10:02:58 | znm | :) | | |
| 10:03:07 | mv | | | |
| 10:03:08 | znm | ya you want to do a lower conc there | | |
| 10:03:17 | znm | | | |
| 10:03:27 | azzy | o | | |
| 10:03:44 | znm | you can go this way too if you really want to | | |
| 10:03:54 | znm | come to red main | | |
| 10:04:07 | znm | so yea u can butotn | | |
| 10:04:11 | znm | or u can hw way too | | |
| 10:04:16 | znm | yep | | |
| 10:04:20 | znm | you can actually skip that ramp | | |
| 10:04:27 | znm | and hit the HW ramp lik ethis | | |
| 10:05:21 | azzy | trimp again | | |
| 10:05:23 | azzy | h | | |
| 10:05:24 | znm | you can xD the flag here | | |
| 10:05:28 | znm | with high speedf | | |
| 10:05:32 | znm | watch | | |
| 10:05:40 | znm | aw | | |
| 10:05:41 | znm | you can toch it | | |
| 10:05:42 | azzy | aw lol | | |
| 10:05:42 | znm | lol | | |
| 10:05:45 | znm | with high speed | | |
| 10:05:47 | znm | and toss it | | |
| 10:06:01 | znm | dont tell squeek xD | | |
| 10:06:07 | azzy | xd | | |
| 10:06:18 | znm | alot of maps are like that | | |
| 10:06:25 | znm | nobody exploits t ypically so we good | | |
| 10:06:25 | azzy | youd need to flick really fast to get it out of there | | |
| 10:06:27 | znm | ya | | |
| 10:06:52 | znm | so I would actually practice that destroy bment to capture point jump too when you have time.. it shouldnt matter with ping too | | |
| 10:06:58 | znm | ping too* | | |
| 10:07:07 | znm | and thats good practice for ur bhop/strafe jump | | |
| 10:07:14 | azzy | i dont want to use this server when we arent playing pickup though , | | |
| 10:07:22 | znm | y not | | |
| 10:07:23 | azzy | theres no other US server up no ? | | |
| 10:07:30 | azzy | because its | | |
| 10:07:33 | azzy | for pickups | | |
| 10:07:34 | azzy | idk | | |
| 10:07:38 | znm | this games dead bruh | | |
| 10:07:43 | azzy | damn | | |
| 10:07:47 | azzy | right , i guess | | |
| 10:07:59 | znm | ill remove your new player role, and then you can use | | |
| 10:08:01 | znm | you* | | |
| 10:08:07 | azzy | neat | | |
| 10:08:08 | azzy | ty | | |
| 10:08:09 | znm | i made that stuff happen when I became server owner | | |
| 10:08:17 | znm | they centralized it before | | |
| 10:08:22 | znm | i decentralized it :) | | |
| 10:08:26 | znm | they fought me on it lol | | |
| 10:08:42 | azzy | how long has this server been up for | | |
| 10:09:02 | znm | uhh | | |
| 10:09:06 | znm | long time | | |
| 10:09:22 | znm | ive only owned it past few years | | |
| 10:09:37 | znm | neonlight owned it before this, i provided most donations so he asked if i wanted it | | |
| 10:09:46 | znm | i didnt really want it, but didnt want the game to die | | |
| 10:09:53 | znm | so here we are | | |
| 10:09:58 | azzy | yeah pickups are the only thing keeping this up | | |
| 10:10:01 | azzy | sad but it is what it is | | |
| 10:10:13 | znm | yea ;\ | | |
| 10:10:28 | znm | people dont really like pickups | | |
| 10:10:38 | znm | they just wanna pub and go afk etc. | | |
| 10:10:44 | azzy | yeah this game works best in a pub envirnoment as thrilling as pickups may be | | |
| 10:10:52 | znm | i hard disagree with you there | | |
| 10:10:54 | znm | lol | | |
| 10:10:54 | azzy | lots of unspecified unwritten rules required to make it work right though | | |
| 10:10:56 | azzy | oh | | |
| 10:11:14 | znm | i dont think TFC or CS is fun in public servers when its 8v8 or 10v10 or w/e | | |
| 10:11:14 | azzy | i mean we dont even have an official gamemode for pickups | | |
| 10:11:25 | znm | i think its made to played a certain way and balanced around that way | | |
| 10:12:07 | znm | soap breaker and his clan run around in the yard in public servers | | |
| 10:12:16 | znm | half the time there is no objective(capture the flag) happening | | |
| 10:12:51 | azzy | i guess thats just ctf as a gamemode ` | | |
| 10:13:01 | azzy | hard to split a team between attacking and defending at the same time | | |
| 10:13:13 | azzy | tf2 has this issue too and its kinda why pickups are a/d | | |
| 10:13:20 | azzy | its just more fun this way | | |
| 10:13:30 | znm | yea, if there are 4 people in a public server, in my eyes a 2v2 OvD should happen, but they dont want to do that | | |
| 10:14:27 | azzy | its just the pickup experience is just so radically different from the base game | | |
| 10:14:35 | azzy | we completely ban sniper or midmap dm | | |
| 10:14:46 | azzy | pyro is optional and only allowed if both teams agree | | |
| 10:14:57 | azzy | you cant enforce that in pubs | | |
| 10:15:04 | znm | the pyro thing I could care less about, i would allow it but people are weird about it | | |
| 10:15:15 | znm | sniper I understand.. its just not feasible in pickups and i think most people understand that | | |
| 10:15:21 | azzy | yea | | |
| 10:15:25 | znm | the same way HW shouldnt be used on offense | | |
| 10:15:51 | azzy | its just this whole thing is | | |
| 10:16:18 | znm | yes, ive asked squeek what it would take to get a | | |
| 10:16:18 | azzy | theres no support in game for it, its all gentlemans rules that we all agree upon in order to have fun | | |
| 10:16:21 | znm | ready up or something | | |
| 10:16:31 | znm | to try and scale this game up if needed | | |
| 10:16:34 | znm | i was ignored | | |
| 10:16:45 | azzy | i dont think squeek is as interested anymore? | | |
| 10:16:50 | znm | i dont blame him. | | |
| 10:16:59 | azzy | i mean yeah idk how long he's been a lead for | | |
| 10:16:59 | znm | but its open source, we could fork him out and do it | | |
| 10:17:05 | znm | its not hard right | | |
| 10:17:08 | azzy | it is | | |
| 10:17:13 | azzy | ive been working on my own 2013 port | | |
| 10:17:15 | znm | im sure the matchmaking setup is | | |
| 10:17:32 | azzy | oh you mean the pickup bot ?? | | |
| 10:17:38 | znm | kinda | | |
| 10:17:48 | azzy | that would be easier to work with maybe | | |
| 10:17:56 | azzy | still doesnt make it any better that its a discord thing only | | |
| 10:17:58 | znm | like get this plugin on multiple servers with a matchmaking tab so to scale it up to a few servers somehow if this game blew up | | |
| 10:18:00 | znm | idk | | |
| 10:18:03 | znm | yea i know | | |
| 10:18:07 | azzy | using the website for it would be better(?) | | |
| 10:18:11 | azzy | ffpickup is still up no ? | | |
| 10:18:20 | znm | ya | | |
| 10:18:24 | azzy | hm | | |
| 10:18:26 | znm | like a l4d2 pug format type of thing? | | |
| 10:18:29 | znm | is that what they do | | |
| 10:18:30 | azzy | the website's open source | | |
| 10:18:56 | znm | yea cedapug i think | | |
| 10:19:07 | azzy | theres a website called tf2pickup.eu for 9v9 | | |
| 10:19:08 | znm | cedapug.com l4d2 verison of it | | |
| 10:19:16 | znm | check that out | | |
| 10:19:20 | azzy | will do rn | | |
| 10:20:05 | azzy | so you enter a queue | | |
| 10:20:15 | znm | !add | | |
| 10:20:17 | znm | right? | | |
| 10:20:18 | azzy | there are novice intermediate and expert ranks | | |
| 10:20:18 | znm | lol | | |
| 10:20:28 | znm | which is same as !add in discord basically , sure yyep | | |
| 10:20:33 | azzy | im talking about the cedapickup website | | |
| 10:20:40 | azzy | i guess its similar yea | | |
| 10:20:41 | znm | ya i know i have it open too | | |
| 10:20:58 | azzy | tf2pickup is even simpler | | |
| 10:21:16 | azzy | you just choose class and pick one of the 3 maps | | |
| 10:21:22 | znm | checking it out now | | |
| 10:21:23 | azzy | on the top | | |
| 10:21:28 | azzy | ye | | |
| 10:21:39 | znm | yea i guess looks pretty similiar | | |
| 10:22:00 | azzy | its open source so maybe i can try something like it ? | | |
| 10:22:06 | azzy | idk what it takes to host a ff server | | |
| 10:22:09 | azzy | is this windows only? | | |
| 10:22:18 | azzy | i have a linux box but idk about sdk2006 | | |
| 10:22:19 | znm | i have no idea if that would attract players or not tho.. | | |
| 10:22:28 | znm | alot of people use discord now and days but i get it | | |
| 10:22:45 | azzy | yeah i guess we'd need to streamline some kind of ruleset | | |
| 10:22:55 | azzy | as if it would attract players | | |
| 10:22:57 | azzy | i dont know | | |
| 10:23:03 | azzy | we need someone to talk about it | | |
| 10:23:05 | znm | make your own ruleset to get any player imo | | |
| 10:23:06 | znm | lol | | |
| 10:23:11 | azzy | someone who has some kind of following | | |
| 10:23:29 | znm | ive been talking with sandblast, hes a tf2 pro whos in FROYO with benny | | |
| 10:23:33 | azzy | o | | |
| 10:23:55 | znm | he keeps saying they are going to show it off etc | | |
| 10:24:00 | znm | but i dont even think that will help either | | |
| 10:24:23 | azzy | i dont think the age of the game is what's really holding it back | | |
| 10:24:25 | znm | hes saying hes gonna get FF added to RGL and stuff | | |
| 10:24:29 | znm | im like ok buddy good luck lol | | |
| 10:24:34 | azzy | aint no way lol | | |
| 10:24:50 | znm | ya its probably the monitisation and nobody wanted to do anything cuz whats the point | | |
| 10:25:05 | znm | you will need to find someone to do it as a passion project | | |
| 10:25:11 | azzy | i think the only thing thats going to save this game is 2013 port | | |
| 10:25:20 | znm | or it make it monitetizable? | | |
| 10:25:40 | azzy | if you want to make it monetizable you uh | | |
| 10:25:45 | azzy | kinda want good players | | |
| 10:25:49 | azzy | to compete | | |
| 10:26:01 | znm | ??? | | |
| 10:26:05 | azzy | if theres an influx of new players | | |
| 10:26:13 | azzy | theyre not gonna be that good | | |
| 10:26:15 | azzy | right | | |
| 10:26:24 | azzy | so competitions will be low lever at the beginning | | |
| 10:26:26 | znm | what does good players have to do with making money for the game | | |
| 10:26:27 | azzy | level | | |
| 10:26:29 | znm | im talking skins | | |
| 10:26:31 | znm | hats | | |
| 10:26:35 | azzy | huh | | |
| 10:26:43 | znm | skins | | |
| 10:26:45 | znm | hates | | |
| 10:26:47 | znm | hats* | | |
| 10:26:52 | azzy | yes i get you i just | | |
| 10:27:04 | znm | its the shit i dont give a fuck about in this game | | |
| 10:27:14 | znm | but i get why nobody wants to put time into it, the game isnt going to make them MONEY | | |
| 10:27:15 | azzy | werent we talking about making money out of hosting rgl comp | | |
| 10:27:20 | azzy | ah | | |
| 10:27:24 | znm | no thats not what i was talking about | | |
| 10:27:34 | azzy | honestly that's, really not the reason | | |
| 10:27:39 | znm | but sandblast has his grandier ideas of this RGL league to get TF2 players thinking that will help | | |
| 10:27:53 | znm | most tf2 players say concs make them dizzy | | |
| 10:28:00 | znm | and uninstall | | |
| 10:28:04 | znm | lol | | |
| 10:28:34 | azzy | there are tons of projects that receive a lot of care and run completely on passion, just like pretty much every source mod | | |
| 10:28:37 | azzy | mod | | |
| 10:28:49 | azzy | im a programmer for tf2classic | | |
| 10:29:06 | azzy | people really like working together for this stuff | | |
| 10:29:09 | azzy | its just | | |
| 10:29:15 | azzy | ff is really hard to develop for anymore | | |
| 10:29:27 | azzy | and most people who used to work on it have lives now | | |
| 10:29:30 | azzy | lol | | |
| 10:29:33 | znm | ya | | |
| 10:29:41 | azzy | no new devs were cycled | | |
| 10:29:53 | azzy | so it just remained in this state until everyone left | | |
| 10:29:54 | znm | i dont really have any complaints on FF except scaling for competitive scene | | |
| 10:30:25 | azzy | cant really have a healthy competitive scene if you dont have curious pubbers who want to get in it | | |
| 10:30:25 | znm | im gonna make some breakfat | | |
| 10:30:28 | azzy | alr | | |
| 10:30:29 | znm | breakfast* | | |
| 10:30:30 | azzy | good talk | | |
| 10:30:33 | azzy | cya | | |
| 10:30:35 | znm | ya i know, i agree with you there | | |
| 10:30:47 | azzy | ill go work on the port | | |
| 10:30:51 | azzy | enjoy your morning | | |
| 10:30:54 | znm | gl hf | | |
| 10:30:56 | azzy | gg | | |
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